1 00:00:01,467 --> 00:00:03,501 This could be what they call a skinwalker den. 2 00:00:07,267 --> 00:00:08,267 What's that sound? 3 00:00:11,033 --> 00:00:12,334 Rockslide! 4 00:00:14,801 --> 00:00:17,501 Go, go, go! Oh, my God. 5 00:00:17,667 --> 00:00:18,868 Here we go! 6 00:00:19,033 --> 00:00:22,167 On this episode of "Expedition X." 7 00:00:22,334 --> 00:00:25,267 Look, look, look, look, look! Oh my God! 8 00:00:25,434 --> 00:00:28,467 My team heads into the heart of the Navajo Nation. 9 00:00:28,634 --> 00:00:30,367 We are in enemy territory now. 10 00:00:30,534 --> 00:00:34,267 Investigating shocking reports of a shape-shifting evil 11 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:36,100 lurking in the darkness. 12 00:00:36,267 --> 00:00:38,067 I gotta get over there. 13 00:00:38,234 --> 00:00:39,901 What was that? 14 00:00:40,067 --> 00:00:41,901 The infamous skinwalker. 15 00:00:43,767 --> 00:00:44,901 I was petrified. 16 00:00:46,267 --> 00:00:48,701 - My heart stopped. - He's right there. 17 00:00:48,868 --> 00:00:50,067 He's watching us. 18 00:00:50,234 --> 00:00:51,267 Phil and Heather will learn 19 00:00:51,434 --> 00:00:53,567 the lore of this ancient horror. 20 00:00:53,734 --> 00:00:55,234 Skinwalkers are truly evil. 21 00:00:57,667 --> 00:01:00,667 But also discover that when hunting the skinwalker, 22 00:01:00,834 --> 00:01:03,601 you have to put your own skin on the line. 23 00:01:03,767 --> 00:01:04,701 Whoa! 24 00:01:06,167 --> 00:01:07,167 Let's go, let's go! 25 00:01:08,267 --> 00:01:09,767 Something is out here. 26 00:01:20,567 --> 00:01:22,767 All right, guys, so I have a video to show you today, 27 00:01:22,934 --> 00:01:24,167 and it is... 28 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:25,767 Well, it's weird. Check it out. 29 00:01:27,167 --> 00:01:29,300 I want you to look back here near this fence line. 30 00:01:29,467 --> 00:01:31,567 - You ready? - Mm-hmm. 31 00:01:31,734 --> 00:01:33,267 Something there, there, and then... 32 00:01:33,434 --> 00:01:34,767 - What? - Whoa, what is that? 33 00:01:34,934 --> 00:01:36,667 Here we go, we're going to look at it again. 34 00:01:36,834 --> 00:01:39,334 We see it, we see it, it's running by, and then... 35 00:01:41,801 --> 00:01:43,567 I mean, it looks like an animal. 36 00:01:43,734 --> 00:01:44,734 - Yes. - But then... 37 00:01:44,901 --> 00:01:47,000 It changes shape and jumps off the screen. 38 00:01:47,167 --> 00:01:48,367 Yes, exactly. 39 00:01:48,534 --> 00:01:51,968 This was captured by a Navajo family on their ranch at 40 00:01:52,133 --> 00:01:54,067 the reservation in New Mexico. 41 00:01:54,234 --> 00:01:57,400 And they believe this is evidence of a skinwalker. 42 00:01:57,567 --> 00:01:58,633 Ooh, skinwalkers. 43 00:01:58,634 --> 00:02:00,467 I've always wanted to investigate skinwalkers. 44 00:02:00,634 --> 00:02:02,167 Heather, be careful what you wish for. 45 00:02:02,334 --> 00:02:05,400 Skinwalkers are a sacred legend to the Navajo. 46 00:02:05,567 --> 00:02:07,467 In modern culture, they're sometimes thought of 47 00:02:07,634 --> 00:02:09,968 like cryptids, as though they're some sort of creature. 48 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:13,367 Some people treat them like spirits or entities. 49 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:17,567 In the original Navajo lore, they're seen as humans with 50 00:02:17,734 --> 00:02:21,167 dark supernatural powers, specifically a terrifying 51 00:02:21,334 --> 00:02:22,868 ability to shape-shift. 52 00:02:23,033 --> 00:02:25,567 Encounters with skinwalkers have been recorded for 53 00:02:25,734 --> 00:02:27,767 generations in the Navajo Nation. 54 00:02:27,934 --> 00:02:30,100 Those sightings continue to this day. 55 00:02:30,267 --> 00:02:32,367 And this family here, they are not alone, 56 00:02:32,534 --> 00:02:34,567 because those sightings are on the rise. 57 00:02:40,067 --> 00:02:42,067 You could make the argument that the skinwalker 58 00:02:42,234 --> 00:02:45,467 is the most feared monster in all of America. 59 00:02:45,634 --> 00:02:47,901 This strange, shape-shifting evil, 60 00:02:48,067 --> 00:02:50,667 sometimes humanoid, sometimes a beast, 61 00:02:50,834 --> 00:02:53,767 has fueled our nightmares for decades. 62 00:02:53,934 --> 00:02:57,267 But it is here, in the sacred lands of the Navajo Nation, 63 00:02:57,434 --> 00:02:59,934 that the dark legend first began. 64 00:03:02,467 --> 00:03:05,200 Established in 1898, the Navajo Nation 65 00:03:05,367 --> 00:03:07,701 is the largest Native American reservation 66 00:03:07,868 --> 00:03:09,367 in the United States, 67 00:03:09,534 --> 00:03:13,267 spanning more than 27,000 square miles across 68 00:03:13,434 --> 00:03:16,767 Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico. 69 00:03:16,934 --> 00:03:18,767 Surrounded by four mountains, 70 00:03:18,934 --> 00:03:20,701 the Navajo people believe that 71 00:03:20,868 --> 00:03:22,767 all land within these boundaries 72 00:03:22,934 --> 00:03:24,200 is spiritually protected. 73 00:03:25,267 --> 00:03:27,868 And this protection is vital because of 74 00:03:28,033 --> 00:03:29,300 the dreaded skinwalker. 75 00:03:31,501 --> 00:03:34,100 Traditionally known as yee naldlooshii, 76 00:03:34,267 --> 00:03:38,167 these mysterious monsters are rarely discussed with outsiders 77 00:03:38,334 --> 00:03:41,200 because there's a fear that simply speaking of them 78 00:03:41,367 --> 00:03:43,467 will incur their wrath. 79 00:03:43,634 --> 00:03:47,367 The Navajo lore that has been passed on says skinwalkers are 80 00:03:47,534 --> 00:03:50,267 evil witches or corrupt medicine men who have 81 00:03:50,434 --> 00:03:52,467 sacrificed those closest to them 82 00:03:52,634 --> 00:03:54,467 in exchange for dark powers, 83 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:59,567 supernatural speed, and the ability to shapeshift 84 00:03:59,734 --> 00:04:02,267 into animals like wolves or coyotes. 85 00:04:03,701 --> 00:04:07,267 According to Navajo stories, the skinwalker's goal is to 86 00:04:07,434 --> 00:04:11,100 inflict harm, illness, and misfortune on others, 87 00:04:11,267 --> 00:04:14,267 using sinister magical curses to attack 88 00:04:14,434 --> 00:04:16,100 and even kill their victims. 89 00:04:17,868 --> 00:04:20,868 And now reported encounters with skinwalkers across 90 00:04:21,033 --> 00:04:23,067 the Navajo Nation are on the rise, 91 00:04:24,167 --> 00:04:26,901 particularly in the remote corner of the reservation in 92 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:28,968 northwestern New Mexico. 93 00:04:29,133 --> 00:04:32,467 A recent eyewitness describes a human-like creature 94 00:04:32,634 --> 00:04:36,267 impossibly running alongside a speeding bus. 95 00:04:36,434 --> 00:04:37,767 Meanwhile, many others 96 00:04:37,934 --> 00:04:40,467 regularly report hearing strange whistling 97 00:04:40,634 --> 00:04:42,901 and blood-curdling screams after dark. 98 00:04:44,167 --> 00:04:47,767 And now, a Navajo family believes they are being hunted 99 00:04:47,934 --> 00:04:51,968 by the skinwalker and think they captured it on video. 100 00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:58,200 The skinwalker story captivates us all, but what's the truth 101 00:04:58,367 --> 00:04:59,701 behind the legend? 102 00:04:59,868 --> 00:05:02,400 Is this evil really out there today, 103 00:05:02,567 --> 00:05:04,300 stalking the Navajo Nation? 104 00:05:09,601 --> 00:05:11,067 So, what do you think? 105 00:05:11,234 --> 00:05:13,701 Well, I should start by saying I did have my own very 106 00:05:13,868 --> 00:05:16,567 memorable experience, not far from the Navajo Nation in 107 00:05:16,734 --> 00:05:18,701 Utah's Uinta Valley. - That's right. 108 00:05:18,868 --> 00:05:20,467 - What you saw from the vehicle. - Yes. 109 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:27,167 That looked like they had fur on them. 110 00:05:27,334 --> 00:05:28,601 Skinwalker? 111 00:05:28,767 --> 00:05:31,000 I don't know what it was, but I can confirm that 112 00:05:31,167 --> 00:05:34,200 the thought of that thing still freaks me out to this day. 113 00:05:34,367 --> 00:05:36,767 And with this new footage, I mean, it is equally 114 00:05:36,934 --> 00:05:39,601 compelling, but just as easily could be misidentified. 115 00:05:39,767 --> 00:05:41,567 I mean, maybe it's a cloud. 116 00:05:41,734 --> 00:05:43,501 Maybe it's a refraction of the lens. 117 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:45,567 A cloud? I have never seen 118 00:05:45,734 --> 00:05:48,200 a cloud two feet off the ground moving like that. 119 00:05:48,367 --> 00:05:49,901 So what, you think it's all smoke and mirrors? 120 00:05:50,067 --> 00:05:51,868 No, I'm not saying it's a hoax, and these stories 121 00:05:52,033 --> 00:05:53,267 do go back centuries. 122 00:05:53,434 --> 00:05:56,567 And sure, there could be some mystery out there. 123 00:05:56,734 --> 00:05:59,467 I'm just not certain this footage proves it. 124 00:05:59,634 --> 00:06:00,868 Heather? 125 00:06:01,033 --> 00:06:03,000 Well, maybe it's more than just stories. 126 00:06:03,167 --> 00:06:04,367 I mean, what do we know? 127 00:06:04,534 --> 00:06:06,868 Think about how famous this legend is. 128 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:09,667 This story has legs, and the Navajo have been here 129 00:06:09,834 --> 00:06:11,367 a heck of a lot longer than us. 130 00:06:11,534 --> 00:06:14,167 So, who are we to say if a skinwalker is real or not 131 00:06:14,334 --> 00:06:16,467 until we go and investigate it ourselves? 132 00:06:16,634 --> 00:06:18,067 Exactly, and that's the mission. 133 00:06:18,234 --> 00:06:19,300 I want you to go to the Navajo Nation, 134 00:06:19,467 --> 00:06:21,167 I want you to meet with this family, 135 00:06:21,334 --> 00:06:23,267 interrogate this video, see if you can figure out 136 00:06:23,434 --> 00:06:25,400 what's going on here, and see if you can find 137 00:06:25,567 --> 00:06:28,667 real evidence to substantiate this terrifying legend. 138 00:06:28,834 --> 00:06:30,467 Ooh, I can't wait. I hope we see a skinwalker. 139 00:06:30,634 --> 00:06:31,901 Ooh, I hope we don't. 140 00:06:32,067 --> 00:06:35,300 Well, good luck, stay safe, and happy hunting. 141 00:06:35,467 --> 00:06:36,701 We're on it. 142 00:06:36,868 --> 00:06:38,667 It's a five-hour flight from New York 143 00:06:38,834 --> 00:06:40,501 to Albuquerque, New Mexico, 144 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:43,167 and then several hours' drive to reach the border 145 00:06:43,334 --> 00:06:44,667 of the Navajo Nation. 146 00:06:51,267 --> 00:06:53,200 All right, Phil. You know what road we're driving on? 147 00:06:53,367 --> 00:06:57,300 - We're on Route 491. - Absolutely not. 148 00:06:57,467 --> 00:07:01,167 This road used to be called Highway 666. 149 00:07:01,334 --> 00:07:02,467 - No way. - I know. 150 00:07:02,634 --> 00:07:05,267 It's true. And it lived up to its name. 151 00:07:05,434 --> 00:07:06,767 Disappearances, fatalities, 152 00:07:06,934 --> 00:07:08,567 all sorts of strange occurrences. 153 00:07:08,734 --> 00:07:12,868 So much so that they actually called it the Devil's Highway. 154 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:14,100 - Wow. - Yep. 155 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:15,467 So they had to rename it. 156 00:07:15,634 --> 00:07:18,000 Yeah, I guess, you know, Route 491 sounds 157 00:07:18,167 --> 00:07:20,367 a lot less sinister. - Yeah. 158 00:07:20,534 --> 00:07:22,300 But you got to admit, this is the perfect road 159 00:07:22,467 --> 00:07:23,501 to lead us to our destination. 160 00:07:24,968 --> 00:07:28,434 We are now in the Navajo Nation. 161 00:07:30,901 --> 00:07:33,400 Phil and I head west across the reservation to meet 162 00:07:33,567 --> 00:07:35,601 the family who shared their shocking video of 163 00:07:35,767 --> 00:07:37,767 a supposed skinwalker with Gates. 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,467 - Hi. - Hello. 165 00:07:40,634 --> 00:07:41,901 - Brenda and Ryan? - Yes. 166 00:07:42,067 --> 00:07:43,667 - Hi, good to meet you guys, Phil. - Nice to meet you. 167 00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:45,501 - Phil. - Nice to meet you. 168 00:07:45,667 --> 00:07:47,067 Nice to meet you. 169 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:49,901 Mother and son Brenda and Ryan Harris grew up on 170 00:07:50,067 --> 00:07:52,267 the reservation and believe a skinwalker is 171 00:07:52,434 --> 00:07:54,000 stalking their home. 172 00:07:54,167 --> 00:07:56,667 We have seen this extraordinary video. 173 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:03,167 That is why we are here. 174 00:08:03,334 --> 00:08:05,367 So how did it all start for you? 175 00:08:05,534 --> 00:08:09,100 My son and his cousin were outside playing late at night, 176 00:08:09,267 --> 00:08:11,367 and they just happened to look down, and they came 177 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:13,400 across this big footprint there. 178 00:08:14,767 --> 00:08:18,000 - That's what they found outside in the back. - Huh. 179 00:08:18,167 --> 00:08:20,367 - Whoa. - How big was this? 180 00:08:20,534 --> 00:08:22,267 It's a little over 18 inches long. 181 00:08:22,434 --> 00:08:24,367 - 18 inches long? - That's huge. 182 00:08:24,534 --> 00:08:26,601 That's definitely unusual marking in the ground there. 183 00:08:27,767 --> 00:08:31,467 What did you think could have left a footprint like that? 184 00:08:31,634 --> 00:08:34,367 I didn't know what it was. I wanted to find out. 185 00:08:34,534 --> 00:08:37,901 So a week later, I bought a video camera. 186 00:08:38,067 --> 00:08:39,968 And I told her, I was like, "Let's see 187 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:42,100 if we catch anything." 188 00:08:42,267 --> 00:08:44,067 I remember we were 189 00:08:44,234 --> 00:08:46,267 fast-forwarding through all of it. 190 00:08:46,434 --> 00:08:49,000 - And then I saw the thing. - Were you afraid? 191 00:08:49,167 --> 00:08:51,200 I was, because we're just scared. 192 00:08:51,367 --> 00:08:53,968 Like, why is it here? We don't know. 193 00:08:54,133 --> 00:08:56,767 So that's when I took the footage 194 00:08:56,934 --> 00:08:58,567 and showed it to my dad. 195 00:08:58,734 --> 00:09:00,400 And right off the bat, he knew what it was. 196 00:09:00,567 --> 00:09:02,701 - He goes, "That's a skinwalker." - Without a doubt. 197 00:09:02,868 --> 00:09:05,367 - Without a doubt. - I mean, that's terrifying. 198 00:09:05,534 --> 00:09:09,167 Not only that, when I was taking out the trash, I saw it. 199 00:09:09,334 --> 00:09:10,267 What do you mean you saw it? 200 00:09:10,434 --> 00:09:12,968 So I climbed up on the ladder. 201 00:09:13,133 --> 00:09:15,667 Then I met eye-to-eye with it. 202 00:09:15,834 --> 00:09:18,200 And it was just standing there, looking at me. 203 00:09:18,367 --> 00:09:22,567 You're saying you came face-to-face with a skinwalker? 204 00:09:22,734 --> 00:09:24,367 - Mm-hmm. - What happened? 205 00:09:24,534 --> 00:09:26,667 - It blackened itself. - Oh. 206 00:09:26,834 --> 00:09:31,267 It took the form of a beast, and then it formed 207 00:09:31,434 --> 00:09:33,167 into the wind. 208 00:09:33,334 --> 00:09:36,868 It scared me. I was petrified. 209 00:09:37,033 --> 00:09:39,167 I don't know how to explain it, but my heart stopped. 210 00:09:39,334 --> 00:09:41,968 - Hm. - I'll never forget it. 211 00:09:42,133 --> 00:09:44,367 So we're talking about something that started physical 212 00:09:44,534 --> 00:09:47,067 and then perhaps moved into the spiritual world? 213 00:09:47,234 --> 00:09:48,400 Possibly. 214 00:09:48,567 --> 00:09:52,567 It's hard to pinpoint exactly what form 215 00:09:52,734 --> 00:09:55,267 the skinwalker will take. 216 00:09:55,434 --> 00:09:59,167 They're the ones that pick what they want to manifest into. 217 00:09:59,334 --> 00:10:00,367 So it could be a wolf, 218 00:10:00,534 --> 00:10:03,100 it could be a coyote, it could be a bear. 219 00:10:03,267 --> 00:10:06,300 I believe they're dangerous. You know, they can hurt you. 220 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:10,400 All I ask is that you guys don't whistle around here. 221 00:10:10,567 --> 00:10:12,701 - Yeah, don't whistle. - Why not whistle? 222 00:10:12,868 --> 00:10:15,267 In the Native culture, you don't ever whistle at night 223 00:10:15,434 --> 00:10:18,601 because you're inviting them to come, and they may come out 224 00:10:18,767 --> 00:10:21,267 when you're not even ready. So don't whistle. 225 00:10:22,467 --> 00:10:24,601 - Well, that's creepy. - Yeah, terrifying. 226 00:10:24,767 --> 00:10:26,200 All right, let's grab our gear and get started. 227 00:10:26,367 --> 00:10:27,267 - Yeah. - Thank you. 228 00:10:27,434 --> 00:10:28,400 - Thank you. - Thank you, guys. 229 00:10:28,567 --> 00:10:29,701 You're welcome. Thank you. 230 00:10:32,067 --> 00:10:34,200 Before we investigate the Harris' property, 231 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:37,267 I want to try and replicate the placement and framing 232 00:10:37,434 --> 00:10:39,267 of Ryan's video camera. 233 00:10:39,434 --> 00:10:42,701 I've got some ideas about what may have actually been captured 234 00:10:42,868 --> 00:10:45,000 and possibly misidentified. 235 00:10:45,167 --> 00:10:46,400 OK, let's see if we can match it. 236 00:10:47,667 --> 00:10:49,901 - Really closely. - I think that's about right. 237 00:10:50,067 --> 00:10:52,868 OK. So I've got this recording. 238 00:10:53,033 --> 00:10:56,767 Now, I wanna see if I can debunk that video. 239 00:10:56,934 --> 00:10:58,467 Of course you do. 240 00:10:58,634 --> 00:11:00,901 - A fog machine? - A fog machine. 241 00:11:01,067 --> 00:11:02,467 Now that's just fogging ridiculous. 242 00:11:03,767 --> 00:11:05,567 You're on fire tonight, you know? 243 00:11:05,734 --> 00:11:07,367 All right, what do you see over there? 244 00:11:07,534 --> 00:11:09,200 - A road. - A road. 245 00:11:09,367 --> 00:11:11,167 Now imagine there was a car there that 246 00:11:11,334 --> 00:11:13,868 suddenly accelerated. What would it leave behind? 247 00:11:14,033 --> 00:11:16,100 - Exhaust. - Yes. 248 00:11:16,267 --> 00:11:17,868 - All right, let's see it. - Ready? 249 00:11:18,033 --> 00:11:19,100 - Yes, sir. - OK. 250 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:33,367 OK, so when it comes out in those puffs, 251 00:11:34,601 --> 00:11:35,667 you almost had me. 252 00:11:35,834 --> 00:11:38,000 It really does look like the start of that video. 253 00:11:38,167 --> 00:11:39,901 - But... - But what? 254 00:11:40,067 --> 00:11:41,767 It doesn't turn into a canine shape, Torres. 255 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,100 It just dissipates into nothing. 256 00:11:45,267 --> 00:11:48,567 And that video clearly showed the clouds turning into 257 00:11:48,734 --> 00:11:51,167 a wolf-like creature and jumping off. 258 00:11:51,334 --> 00:11:56,067 - Well, I'm out of theories. - Well, it was a hot start. 259 00:11:56,234 --> 00:11:59,868 I gotta say, this one has got me a little stumped. 260 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:02,267 I couldn't find a logical explanation for what was 261 00:12:02,434 --> 00:12:06,267 captured on the Harris' video yet, so I'm leaving a camera 262 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:08,801 running to record more data. Who knows? 263 00:12:08,968 --> 00:12:11,367 Maybe it'll catch something extraordinary. 264 00:12:11,534 --> 00:12:13,467 OK, leave this thing recording. 265 00:12:13,634 --> 00:12:15,100 All right, whatever was in that video, 266 00:12:15,267 --> 00:12:17,367 it was heading thataway-- that's where we gotta go. 267 00:12:17,534 --> 00:12:18,767 Agreed. 268 00:12:18,934 --> 00:12:21,701 The Harris property is right next to an area of isolated 269 00:12:21,868 --> 00:12:24,300 wilderness that borders the San Juan River. 270 00:12:24,467 --> 00:12:27,868 If any creature, known or unknown, is out here, 271 00:12:28,033 --> 00:12:29,267 this wilderness might be 272 00:12:29,434 --> 00:12:31,100 the perfect place for it to hide. 273 00:12:32,567 --> 00:12:33,600 So what's the plan? 274 00:12:33,601 --> 00:12:36,901 So I think we need to set up some perimeters. 275 00:12:37,067 --> 00:12:40,367 I have these shotgun tripwires that will let us know 276 00:12:40,534 --> 00:12:43,400 very loudly if something goes over that string. 277 00:12:43,567 --> 00:12:45,968 We will know if something's moving around here. 278 00:12:46,133 --> 00:12:48,100 OK, well, while you're doing that physical tripwire, 279 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:50,067 I want to set up spiritual tripwires, 280 00:12:50,234 --> 00:12:51,567 because as our witness just told us, 281 00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:54,400 not only are skinwalkers a physical being, 282 00:12:54,567 --> 00:12:56,000 they can also be spiritual as well. 283 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,400 All right, well, then we'll have our bases covered. 284 00:12:59,567 --> 00:13:01,968 And hey, do not forget, there could be potentially 285 00:13:02,133 --> 00:13:03,801 mountain lions and bears and coyotes. 286 00:13:03,968 --> 00:13:04,933 Skinwalkers. 287 00:13:04,934 --> 00:13:06,901 Right, very dangerous animals out here. 288 00:13:07,067 --> 00:13:08,467 - Stay in walkie? OK. - Copy that. 289 00:13:10,567 --> 00:13:12,868 To secure the perimeter, I head north to set up 290 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:15,801 a tripwire that will make a sound on physical contact. 291 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 All right. 292 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 OK. 293 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:23,567 Trap is set, we got a live wire here. 294 00:13:23,734 --> 00:13:25,367 All right. 295 00:13:25,534 --> 00:13:29,133 Meanwhile, Heather activates an EMF tripwire to the south. 296 00:13:31,601 --> 00:13:32,701 If I'm walking right beside this. 297 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:36,667 I'm not gonna set it off. 298 00:13:36,834 --> 00:13:39,367 You have to either touch it with quite some pressure 299 00:13:39,534 --> 00:13:42,367 or something of the spiritual realm has to interact with it. 300 00:13:42,534 --> 00:13:46,000 So if I get any hits on this EMF tripwire, we know that 301 00:13:46,167 --> 00:13:48,467 whatever that creature was is of the spiritual realm. 302 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:53,000 So I've calibrated this where 303 00:13:53,167 --> 00:13:57,367 anything warm like me will show up white. 304 00:13:58,801 --> 00:14:01,767 Everything else is looking pretty red or yellow. 305 00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:04,868 If there's any animals out there, 306 00:14:05,033 --> 00:14:08,400 I'm hoping this can help me see it before it sees me. 307 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:18,100 OK, because we're looking for animals, I'm gonna keep my eyes 308 00:14:18,267 --> 00:14:21,501 out through night vision binoculars, but also because 309 00:14:21,667 --> 00:14:24,567 we're looking for spirits, I'm gonna keep one eye on my K2 310 00:14:24,734 --> 00:14:26,467 to see if I get any EMF hits. 311 00:14:34,501 --> 00:14:35,667 OK, tripwire is still solid. 312 00:14:37,801 --> 00:14:40,901 Nothing on the binoculars yet. K2 silent. 313 00:14:43,267 --> 00:14:45,400 But the dogs are barking. 314 00:14:48,567 --> 00:14:50,467 What was that? 315 00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:57,634 That was weird. 316 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:02,701 That was like a glowing orb, almost. 317 00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:05,167 There's no bugs out here, it's too cold. 318 00:15:05,334 --> 00:15:08,267 It was not right in front of the binoc-- . 319 00:15:08,434 --> 00:15:09,367 What was that? 320 00:15:18,601 --> 00:15:22,067 2 It was like this shape, almost very similar to 321 00:15:22,234 --> 00:15:23,567 the start of that video, but it appeared 322 00:15:23,734 --> 00:15:25,167 and disappeared so quickly. 323 00:15:27,567 --> 00:15:28,701 I don't know what that was. 324 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,467 Something was definitely there. 325 00:15:37,067 --> 00:15:38,100 And like, I'm not alone. 326 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,467 I do not see anything on the FLIR. 327 00:15:55,367 --> 00:15:58,067 Skinwalker, skinwalker, 328 00:15:58,234 --> 00:15:59,167 where are you? 329 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,267 OK, so our witnesses told us not to whistle on 330 00:16:08,434 --> 00:16:11,100 their property, but we are far from their property. 331 00:16:11,267 --> 00:16:12,400 We are closer to the river. 332 00:16:13,767 --> 00:16:17,300 I just wonder what's going to happen if I whistle. 333 00:16:28,767 --> 00:16:30,501 Did you hear that? 334 00:16:33,968 --> 00:16:35,000 I just heard whistling back. 335 00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:41,300 Something just whistled back at me. 336 00:16:45,968 --> 00:16:47,767 Oh my God! Right there! 337 00:16:47,934 --> 00:16:49,200 Right there! What is that? 338 00:16:56,467 --> 00:16:57,868 That was something big. 339 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,300 Whatever was back here, I don't see it anymore. 340 00:17:16,968 --> 00:17:18,267 The tripwire! The tripwire! 341 00:17:21,601 --> 00:17:23,067 Something just set this tripwire off. 342 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,701 All of the others are OK. 343 00:17:26,868 --> 00:17:27,767 And it stopped. 344 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,467 Is there anyone there? 345 00:17:36,767 --> 00:17:38,100 There's nothing. 346 00:17:38,267 --> 00:17:39,467 Nothing on the EMF, 347 00:17:40,667 --> 00:17:42,367 but something is out here. 348 00:17:44,701 --> 00:17:45,868 I'm gonna walkie Heather. 349 00:17:47,968 --> 00:17:48,968 Heather, you copy? 350 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:51,100 Yeah, copy. What's up? 351 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,367 You know how they said not to whistle? 352 00:17:54,467 --> 00:17:55,968 Phil? 353 00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:58,968 But after I whistled, I got a major hit on the FLIR, 354 00:17:59,133 --> 00:18:02,167 and it seemed like something was whistling back at me. 355 00:18:02,334 --> 00:18:04,767 I'm telling you, Heather, it's like something 356 00:18:04,934 --> 00:18:05,933 is calling out to me. 357 00:18:05,934 --> 00:18:07,200 What you need to-- 358 00:18:07,367 --> 00:18:08,466 Whoa! 359 00:18:08,467 --> 00:18:10,267 That was a tripwire, meet me over there! 360 00:18:10,434 --> 00:18:11,367 Let's go. Let's go. 361 00:18:16,167 --> 00:18:17,968 Right here, right here. 362 00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:19,334 Where? 363 00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:22,801 Do you see anything? 364 00:18:24,267 --> 00:18:25,267 No. 365 00:18:27,167 --> 00:18:28,901 Any tracks? 366 00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:34,200 Heather, I set the tripwire high here. 367 00:18:34,367 --> 00:18:37,000 That means whatever it was had to be massive. 368 00:18:37,167 --> 00:18:38,667 Whoa, over here. Look, look, look. 369 00:18:38,834 --> 00:18:40,299 - What? - Come here, come here. 370 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:42,167 - What, what, what? - Right there, right there, right there. 371 00:18:42,334 --> 00:18:43,667 There's something there. Let's go. 372 00:18:48,567 --> 00:18:49,567 Where is it? 373 00:18:51,868 --> 00:18:53,167 - Oh! Look! - What, what, what? 374 00:18:53,334 --> 00:18:54,567 Look, look, look, look, look! 375 00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:55,868 What is that? 376 00:18:56,033 --> 00:18:56,901 It's over by the river. 377 00:19:02,167 --> 00:19:03,167 Oh my God, it's big! 378 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,601 Oh my gosh! 379 00:19:06,767 --> 00:19:08,400 Look at that big spike, big spike! 380 00:19:10,868 --> 00:19:12,767 I gotta get over there. I gotta cross this river. 381 00:19:14,167 --> 00:19:15,601 OK, but be careful. 382 00:19:23,167 --> 00:19:24,801 EMF meter's quiet. 383 00:19:24,968 --> 00:19:26,968 It's like whatever we were chasing 384 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:31,067 was both physical and spiritual. 385 00:19:31,234 --> 00:19:33,167 I'm gonna look and see if I can find any evidence 386 00:19:33,334 --> 00:19:34,868 of where this thing might have crossed. 387 00:19:45,701 --> 00:19:48,367 I'm not seeing a thing on the FLIR. 388 00:19:48,534 --> 00:19:51,000 Whatever it was, it's long gone. 389 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 But that was big. 390 00:19:55,467 --> 00:19:57,367 It must have been-- based on the FLIR it was 391 00:19:57,534 --> 00:19:59,667 maybe four or so feet tall. 392 00:19:59,834 --> 00:20:00,767 I mean huge! 393 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:08,000 No tracks. 394 00:20:08,167 --> 00:20:09,100 Wait a second. 395 00:20:10,767 --> 00:20:12,868 Look at that. Phil, I got something. 396 00:20:20,367 --> 00:20:21,400 2 You gotta get over here! 397 00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:28,868 - What'd you find? - Check this out. 398 00:20:30,167 --> 00:20:34,167 Whoa, wow, look at that! You found an animal hair! 399 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:35,868 - Good eye! - I know! 400 00:20:36,033 --> 00:20:38,100 What this is telling me is that whatever 401 00:20:38,267 --> 00:20:40,000 we picked up across the river 402 00:20:40,167 --> 00:20:43,367 was a physical, living, real animal. 403 00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:46,501 But remember, just because it's a physical animal 404 00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:49,367 doesn't mean that it's not a skinwalker. 405 00:20:49,534 --> 00:20:52,000 Whatever it is, I want to bag this so we can test it 406 00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:53,467 and ID it. - Copy that. 407 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:01,267 All right, got something. 408 00:21:01,434 --> 00:21:02,601 What I don't get is, 409 00:21:02,767 --> 00:21:05,367 whatever we have been chasing all night long, 410 00:21:06,467 --> 00:21:07,634 why did it lead us here? 411 00:21:07,801 --> 00:21:09,200 Why did it lead us to the water and then disappear? 412 00:21:09,367 --> 00:21:10,501 I mean, what 413 00:21:11,567 --> 00:21:12,767 are we chasing? 414 00:21:12,934 --> 00:21:13,968 Where did it go? 415 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,501 And why did I decide to whistle? 416 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:20,300 Now that, Phil, is probably the million-dollar question. 417 00:21:20,467 --> 00:21:23,367 - Let's keep going? OK. - Yeah. 418 00:21:25,801 --> 00:21:28,868 Before we leave the location, I set up a trail camera along 419 00:21:29,033 --> 00:21:31,100 the river's edge, in case whatever 420 00:21:31,267 --> 00:21:33,033 we were chasing returns. 421 00:21:35,501 --> 00:21:36,501 Last night's investigation 422 00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:39,267 left us with more questions than answers. 423 00:21:39,434 --> 00:21:42,300 So while Phil tracks down more eyewitnesses, I want to explore 424 00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:44,767 the origins of the skinwalker legend. 425 00:21:44,934 --> 00:21:47,400 I'm meeting with Navajo historian Eugene Joe, 426 00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:50,100 who has agreed to do something that rarely happens, 427 00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:53,067 share his tribe's ancestral knowledge about skinwalkers 428 00:21:53,234 --> 00:21:54,667 with outsiders. 429 00:21:54,834 --> 00:21:56,400 I want to go all the way back. 430 00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:58,767 Can you tell me about the history of skinwalkers? 431 00:21:58,934 --> 00:22:00,267 They call them the Night Warriors. 432 00:22:01,901 --> 00:22:04,868 Tlee naabaahii is how you say it in Navajo. 433 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:09,100 They were given a power to protect the sacred ways of 434 00:22:09,267 --> 00:22:12,100 the Navajo people, but then something happened 435 00:22:12,267 --> 00:22:13,367 and there was a conflict. 436 00:22:13,534 --> 00:22:15,567 That's when the evil decided to take over. 437 00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:19,767 So Night Warriors started out good as protectors 438 00:22:19,934 --> 00:22:22,767 and then turned evil and became skinwalkers. 439 00:22:22,934 --> 00:22:24,367 Yes. 440 00:22:24,534 --> 00:22:25,767 What do skinwalkers want? 441 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,100 They want to be more powerful. 442 00:22:29,667 --> 00:22:32,767 They like to channel curses, hex, 443 00:22:33,868 --> 00:22:39,167 taboos on homes to destroy a family. 444 00:22:39,334 --> 00:22:42,300 They don't want to see you become wealthy. 445 00:22:42,467 --> 00:22:46,000 They want to see you fall, because that in turn makes them 446 00:22:46,167 --> 00:22:48,267 feel like they have more power. - Yes. 447 00:22:49,467 --> 00:22:51,267 I have a little drawing that I did. 448 00:22:51,434 --> 00:22:54,100 They're just like ordinary people, just like you and I. 449 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,399 And they... 450 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,100 They just paint their face for night and for day protection. 451 00:23:00,267 --> 00:23:01,868 That was what it was for. 452 00:23:02,033 --> 00:23:05,000 So if we saw a skinwalker today, it could have similar 453 00:23:05,167 --> 00:23:07,100 black and white face paint. - Yes. 454 00:23:07,267 --> 00:23:10,100 A few years back, I was face-to-face with one. 455 00:23:11,667 --> 00:23:13,300 It was a woman. 456 00:23:13,467 --> 00:23:16,501 Her face was black and white. 457 00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:18,767 I said, means, "What do you want?" 458 00:23:19,968 --> 00:23:21,000 Don't bother me. 459 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:23,267 If you're here for evil, go away. 460 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:25,300 She didn't know what to say. 461 00:23:26,501 --> 00:23:29,267 And covered her face. And that was it. 462 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:33,467 - Were you afraid? - I can't show my weakness. 463 00:23:33,634 --> 00:23:34,833 Hm. 464 00:23:34,834 --> 00:23:37,100 Because you spoke to this skinwalker, you were able to 465 00:23:37,267 --> 00:23:38,467 protect yourself. - Right. 466 00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:41,067 It's just like a mind game, like a chess game. 467 00:23:41,234 --> 00:23:42,133 Right. 468 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:44,267 When you show fear, you're powerless. 469 00:23:48,701 --> 00:23:50,968 On the other side of the reservation... 470 00:23:51,133 --> 00:23:52,299 Hey there! 471 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,501 ...I've connected with members of the Navajo Nation, 472 00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:57,367 Frank Smith and Anthony Lee. 473 00:23:57,534 --> 00:24:01,267 They both believe they survived terrifying encounters 474 00:24:01,434 --> 00:24:02,868 with the skinwalker. 475 00:24:03,033 --> 00:24:04,701 I gotta hear these stories. 476 00:24:04,868 --> 00:24:08,501 Recently, I was driving on one of the roads here. 477 00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:13,400 About 10 feet away, I saw something crossing the road. 478 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:19,400 It was just walking like a dog would be walking on all fours, 479 00:24:19,567 --> 00:24:21,000 but it didn't look right. 480 00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:25,167 Could it have been a dog that was maybe hit by a car 481 00:24:25,334 --> 00:24:27,167 and was injured? 482 00:24:27,334 --> 00:24:29,367 I don't think so, because the face itself wasn't 483 00:24:29,534 --> 00:24:32,000 the face of a dog. It had a human face. 484 00:24:32,167 --> 00:24:34,367 That sounds absolutely terrifying. 485 00:24:34,534 --> 00:24:36,567 Yeah, it is, especially when you're out there alone 486 00:24:36,734 --> 00:24:38,167 like that. - What about you? 487 00:24:38,334 --> 00:24:39,533 Tell me your story. 488 00:24:39,534 --> 00:24:42,334 Couple months back, we're out here scouting around... 489 00:24:44,801 --> 00:24:47,100 While I was there, I took a photo of my niece. 490 00:24:48,567 --> 00:24:50,801 A couple days later, I was going through the pictures, 491 00:24:50,968 --> 00:24:53,467 and I thought, hmm, there's something not right 492 00:24:53,634 --> 00:24:54,567 about that picture. 493 00:24:55,968 --> 00:24:57,067 This is what I saw. 494 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:01,667 Wow. So that part is your niece. 495 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:04,100 But then in the background, there's that. 496 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,200 It's a skinwalker. 497 00:25:07,367 --> 00:25:08,701 Wow. Creepy. 498 00:25:08,868 --> 00:25:11,767 - Yeah, you could see the human face there. - Yeah, yeah. 499 00:25:11,934 --> 00:25:16,100 I mean, it looks like a fur hood and like skinny fur legs. 500 00:25:16,267 --> 00:25:17,567 Right. 501 00:25:17,734 --> 00:25:20,400 This looks like how people describe a skinwalker. 502 00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:21,767 You must have been afraid? 503 00:25:21,934 --> 00:25:23,167 I had chills going down my back. 504 00:25:30,868 --> 00:25:32,300 I have to wonder. 505 00:25:32,467 --> 00:25:35,000 We had this investigation last night, 506 00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:37,868 and I kept feeling like something was watching me. 507 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:40,868 And I couldn't see anything. 508 00:25:41,033 --> 00:25:44,267 Before your very eyes, they can disappear in front of you. 509 00:25:44,434 --> 00:25:47,667 See, they can vaporize themselves in different ways. 510 00:25:47,834 --> 00:25:49,567 That's why if you're going out there 511 00:25:49,734 --> 00:25:51,567 looking for a skinwalker... - Mm-hmm. 512 00:25:51,734 --> 00:25:55,000 ...have someone that will understand how to protect you. 513 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,868 - So someone Navajo? - Mm-hmm. 514 00:25:58,033 --> 00:26:01,901 Make sure they do a prayer for you so that physically 515 00:26:02,067 --> 00:26:06,200 or mentally you will not be disturbed by evil spirits. 516 00:26:06,367 --> 00:26:07,701 OK. 517 00:26:07,868 --> 00:26:09,767 - I've got someone in mind. - Right? 518 00:26:09,934 --> 00:26:11,467 Thank you so much for everything that you've shared 519 00:26:11,634 --> 00:26:13,801 with me-- I really, really appreciate it. 520 00:26:13,968 --> 00:26:15,167 Never show fear. 521 00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:18,501 I'll try to be strong and try not to be afraid. 522 00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:20,400 Don't try. Do it. 523 00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:21,734 Yes, sir. 524 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,067 Is there any place that you think that we should be 525 00:26:25,234 --> 00:26:29,367 focusing our investigation to try to find evidence of what 526 00:26:29,534 --> 00:26:30,734 people are calling a skinwalker? 527 00:26:30,901 --> 00:26:34,000 The hot spot that everybody talks about is Ojo Canyon. 528 00:26:34,167 --> 00:26:37,467 The locals also refer to Skinwalker Canyon. 529 00:26:37,634 --> 00:26:39,901 - It's known locally as Skinwalker Canyon. - Right. 530 00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:41,868 I'm guessing it got that name for a reason. 531 00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:44,267 Yep-- if you are going to the Skinwalker Canyon, 532 00:26:44,434 --> 00:26:46,000 be careful. - OK. 533 00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,667 - I appreciate your time. - OK. 534 00:26:49,701 --> 00:26:52,000 Heather and I meet back up and begin our journey 535 00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:55,567 to Ojo Canyon, aka Skinwalker Canyon, 536 00:26:55,734 --> 00:26:58,133 on the eastern edge of the Navajo Nation. 537 00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:01,901 Based on everything that you learned from 538 00:27:02,067 --> 00:27:04,868 your witnesses, I reached out to my buddy, Shanclen, 539 00:27:05,033 --> 00:27:06,467 who I worked with in Vulture City. 540 00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:08,300 He's Navajo and says he's hunted 541 00:27:08,467 --> 00:27:09,467 these skinwalkers before. 542 00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:12,400 If there's any place were to give you fear, 543 00:27:12,567 --> 00:27:13,767 this is the place. - Mm. 544 00:27:13,934 --> 00:27:15,267 It's dangerous. 545 00:27:15,434 --> 00:27:17,000 Please be careful tonight. 546 00:27:17,167 --> 00:27:19,167 Based on what Eugene told me, we need someone 547 00:27:19,334 --> 00:27:20,500 like Shanclen on our side. 548 00:27:20,501 --> 00:27:23,200 Hey, if this Skinwalker Canyon lives up to its name, 549 00:27:23,367 --> 00:27:24,400 absolutely we do. 550 00:27:25,801 --> 00:27:26,901 - There's Shanclen. - Oh yeah? 551 00:27:28,367 --> 00:27:29,868 Shanclen is a Navajo who knows 552 00:27:30,033 --> 00:27:32,501 the supposed Skinwalker Canyon inside and out. 553 00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:35,100 His knowledge of the land and its legends will be 554 00:27:35,267 --> 00:27:37,367 critical to our investigation. 555 00:27:37,534 --> 00:27:38,667 Have you ever had any encounters with 556 00:27:38,834 --> 00:27:40,167 the skinwalkers yourself? 557 00:27:40,334 --> 00:27:43,000 I could go all day about skinwalkers I've encountered. 558 00:27:43,167 --> 00:27:45,801 - Or I could just show you guys. - Show us. 559 00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:49,367 So, these photos were taken recently in a cave not too far 560 00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:52,367 away from where I live. - Oh my god. 561 00:27:52,534 --> 00:27:53,901 White and black face paint. 562 00:27:54,067 --> 00:27:55,901 That is exactly what my witness said 563 00:27:56,067 --> 00:27:57,133 a skinwalker could look like. 564 00:27:59,267 --> 00:28:00,868 So those photos were taken recently 565 00:28:01,033 --> 00:28:02,367 with a disposable camera. 566 00:28:02,534 --> 00:28:04,300 Pretty common for these beings to be able to show up 567 00:28:04,467 --> 00:28:05,801 on film cameras. 568 00:28:05,968 --> 00:28:07,667 So, I went ahead and brought some tonight for us when we go 569 00:28:07,834 --> 00:28:09,868 investigate these beings. - That's a great idea. 570 00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:11,801 So, where can skinwalkers be found? 571 00:28:11,968 --> 00:28:13,701 - In caves. - Why caves? 572 00:28:13,868 --> 00:28:17,400 Caves is cover from spiritual people 573 00:28:17,567 --> 00:28:19,267 and the elements themselves. 574 00:28:19,434 --> 00:28:22,367 They get to be able to hide inside of those caves and do 575 00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:23,868 ungodly things in there. 576 00:28:24,033 --> 00:28:26,367 I got to warn you guys that skinwalkers are truly evil. 577 00:28:26,534 --> 00:28:28,701 When it comes to their craft and what they want to do, 578 00:28:28,868 --> 00:28:31,067 they can kill somebody if they wanted to. 579 00:28:31,234 --> 00:28:34,968 Skinwalkers are very dangerous here on the reservation. 580 00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:36,467 So, I'm glad you reached out to me. 581 00:28:36,634 --> 00:28:37,567 Let's head to the canyon. 582 00:28:41,868 --> 00:28:43,300 Here we go! 583 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,300 This is the entrance into Skinwalker Canyon right here. 584 00:28:52,801 --> 00:28:53,868 Let's be extra careful, 585 00:28:54,033 --> 00:28:55,667 because we are in enemy territory now. 586 00:29:02,968 --> 00:29:05,367 2 So, this is as far as we go with these ponies. 587 00:29:05,534 --> 00:29:06,901 Rest of the way, we're gonna go ahead on foot. 588 00:29:10,567 --> 00:29:12,767 Before we set out, Shanclen performs a traditional 589 00:29:12,934 --> 00:29:14,767 Navajo blessing to help protect us 590 00:29:14,934 --> 00:29:17,000 from any evil forces we may encounter. 591 00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:20,801 Ancient deity, ancient being of protection, 592 00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:26,000 I pray to you that you can create some beautiful ash for us 593 00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:27,567 to protect us tonight. 594 00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:33,033 The fire heard your prayer. This is going to protect you. 595 00:29:35,501 --> 00:29:37,667 This threat that we're facing tonight is very real. 596 00:29:37,834 --> 00:29:39,400 So, you never know whether you're going to get 597 00:29:39,567 --> 00:29:41,767 the physical or spiritual side. 598 00:29:46,267 --> 00:29:48,267 We've got our protection. Let's gear up. 599 00:29:48,434 --> 00:29:49,767 - See what we can find out here. - Let's do this. 600 00:29:55,601 --> 00:30:00,000 - It's so quiet. - Yeah. 601 00:30:00,167 --> 00:30:02,467 Like how I mentioned before, sometimes these skinwalkers 602 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:05,200 can be caught on film and camera. 603 00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:09,868 Let's go ahead and snap some photos to see if we can capture 604 00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:11,868 any skinwalkers on it. - All right. 605 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,167 Skinwalker. 606 00:30:17,267 --> 00:30:19,767 What a nostalgic way to capture pure evil. 607 00:30:22,167 --> 00:30:25,767 There are so many hiding spots 608 00:30:25,934 --> 00:30:28,567 for something to be watching us right now. 609 00:30:31,868 --> 00:30:33,200 Look! Look down here. 610 00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:34,567 Look at this. 611 00:30:34,734 --> 00:30:36,300 Look at this. 612 00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:38,400 It's gotta be coyote. Look at that. 613 00:30:39,767 --> 00:30:41,167 A lot of coyote tracks. 614 00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:45,167 People think, oh, it's just a normal coyote pack. 615 00:30:45,334 --> 00:30:47,100 But that's just what they want you to think. 616 00:30:48,667 --> 00:30:52,901 Well, if you're saying there could be a skinwalker hidden 617 00:30:53,067 --> 00:30:56,701 amongst a coyote pack, I say we follow these tracks. 618 00:30:56,868 --> 00:30:59,067 Absolutely, but let's keep our heads on a swivel. 619 00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:00,167 I'm gonna go right. 620 00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:09,467 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 621 00:31:11,267 --> 00:31:13,968 What was that? Heather, get over here. 622 00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:15,200 What's going on? 623 00:31:15,367 --> 00:31:16,400 This rock... 624 00:31:17,467 --> 00:31:19,901 nearly hit me as I was walking through here. 625 00:31:20,067 --> 00:31:21,767 What do you mean it nearly hit you? 626 00:31:21,934 --> 00:31:24,667 Yeah, I heard some movement, looked up, 627 00:31:24,834 --> 00:31:26,267 this thing was flying down. 628 00:31:26,434 --> 00:31:27,868 I think there's something up there. 629 00:31:28,033 --> 00:31:29,100 - Let's fly. - Right. 630 00:31:31,167 --> 00:31:33,567 If something is hiding in this vast canyon, 631 00:31:33,734 --> 00:31:36,868 the best way to find it is to get eyes in the sky. 632 00:31:37,033 --> 00:31:38,367 I'm monitoring my thermal drone 633 00:31:38,534 --> 00:31:40,567 to search for anything physical, 634 00:31:40,734 --> 00:31:43,167 while Heather claims her EMF drone will scan 635 00:31:43,334 --> 00:31:44,467 for anything spiritual. 636 00:31:49,267 --> 00:31:51,267 This arrow shows the drone's location. 637 00:31:51,434 --> 00:31:54,167 If there's anyone out there, you can show up 638 00:31:54,334 --> 00:31:57,934 on my EMF drone, show up on Phil's drone. 639 00:32:00,467 --> 00:32:01,868 Make yourself known to us. 640 00:32:02,033 --> 00:32:03,968 Oh. 641 00:32:04,133 --> 00:32:05,167 - What was that? - Did you hear that? 642 00:32:05,334 --> 00:32:06,501 - Was that a whistle? - Yeah. 643 00:32:08,968 --> 00:32:09,968 Coming from that direction. 644 00:32:11,167 --> 00:32:12,501 That was definitely a whistle. 645 00:32:14,033 --> 00:32:15,501 - Oh. - What was that? 646 00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:16,701 Do you want our attention? 647 00:32:19,767 --> 00:32:22,167 - Ooh! - Whoa! 648 00:32:23,968 --> 00:32:25,400 Look, there's two of 'em. 649 00:32:25,567 --> 00:32:27,767 Three! Four! 650 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,067 It's right behind us. 651 00:32:30,234 --> 00:32:31,734 It's still hanging there. 652 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,300 - Right? - Yeah. 653 00:32:35,467 --> 00:32:37,367 This is a clear cluster of anomalies. 654 00:32:37,534 --> 00:32:39,901 - We have to get over there. - Let's go. 655 00:32:42,367 --> 00:32:45,100 Those anomalies were right around here. 656 00:32:45,267 --> 00:32:47,367 - It's gotta be close. - All right, let's split up. 657 00:32:47,534 --> 00:32:49,000 - Heather, you take right. Shanclen, left. - OK. 658 00:32:49,167 --> 00:32:50,501 - Let's do this. - I'll head up here. 659 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,567 Is that what I think it is? 660 00:32:59,267 --> 00:33:00,868 Heather! 661 00:33:01,033 --> 00:33:02,467 I think I found a cave! 662 00:33:02,634 --> 00:33:04,000 - A cave? - Yeah. 663 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,801 This very well could be an entrance into 664 00:33:11,968 --> 00:33:13,300 a skinwalker cave. 665 00:33:13,467 --> 00:33:14,767 - Everybody ready to go in? - Yeah. 666 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,267 Whoa. 667 00:33:22,267 --> 00:33:23,667 - Ooh. - Whoa. 668 00:33:27,634 --> 00:33:28,667 What is that? 669 00:33:28,834 --> 00:33:30,367 Whatever you do, don't touch it. 670 00:33:30,534 --> 00:33:31,934 Why? 671 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,968 This right here looks like a skinwalker curse bundle. 672 00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:36,100 What, is that used to curse someone? 673 00:33:36,267 --> 00:33:38,167 - Yes. - How can you tell? 674 00:33:38,334 --> 00:33:40,267 Well, normally, if they wanted to be able to witch 675 00:33:40,434 --> 00:33:42,267 and curse somebody, they'd take the hair 676 00:33:42,434 --> 00:33:44,501 or personal belonging or clothing. 677 00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:46,300 Right there. That's a hair. 678 00:33:46,467 --> 00:33:49,367 So, you're telling me that whoever's gray hair that is, 679 00:33:50,467 --> 00:33:55,100 a skinwalker got that hair and made this? 680 00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:56,399 Yes. 681 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,367 Skinwalkers, they use these things to make family, 682 00:33:59,534 --> 00:34:04,100 loved ones sick, bring bad luck, and all of the above. 683 00:34:04,267 --> 00:34:08,000 This is, in your mind, clear evidence of essentially 684 00:34:08,167 --> 00:34:10,901 an evil, dark ritual. - Exactly. 685 00:34:11,067 --> 00:34:13,100 And we have to be careful going forward. 686 00:34:13,267 --> 00:34:14,300 OK. 687 00:34:14,467 --> 00:34:16,501 Well, you got some cave to explore. 688 00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:21,767 OK. 689 00:34:23,767 --> 00:34:25,300 Skinwalkers can lay traps 690 00:34:25,467 --> 00:34:28,100 inside of their homes and in their dens. 691 00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:29,868 This is what makes it so dangerous now. 692 00:34:31,567 --> 00:34:33,801 What did you just say? 693 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,200 I said to come here. 694 00:34:39,868 --> 00:34:41,467 - I like this guy. - Oh my gosh. 695 00:34:41,634 --> 00:34:43,167 I never should have introduced y'all. 696 00:34:44,901 --> 00:34:46,367 I gotta keep heading in. 697 00:34:46,534 --> 00:34:48,267 We're on the trail of something. 698 00:34:48,434 --> 00:34:50,067 - I gotta figure it out. - OK, stay safe. 699 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,167 As Phil investigates deeper inside the cave, 700 00:34:56,334 --> 00:34:58,367 Shanclen and I begin a call-and-response session 701 00:34:58,534 --> 00:35:00,567 to try and contact any skinwalkers present. 702 00:35:01,701 --> 00:35:03,167 OK. 703 00:35:03,334 --> 00:35:04,267 This is Heather and Shanclen. 704 00:35:07,767 --> 00:35:11,601 We're in what may be a skinwalker's den. 705 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,667 If you are a skinwalker, I'm not afraid of you. 706 00:35:17,167 --> 00:35:18,868 We have different tools here for you. 707 00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:21,100 You can show up on this XLS. 708 00:35:21,267 --> 00:35:23,801 Or you can speak into this device right here as well. 709 00:35:23,968 --> 00:35:25,167 Right-- whoa, whoa, whoa. 710 00:35:27,367 --> 00:35:29,167 That's a long hello. 711 00:35:29,334 --> 00:35:30,801 Are there any skinwalkers here? 712 00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:37,701 Yes. 713 00:35:37,868 --> 00:35:38,767 Big yes. 714 00:35:39,801 --> 00:35:40,968 Are you at the entrance of the cave? 715 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,467 Wha-- tch-- tch-- tch. 716 00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:49,000 He's right there. He's right there. 717 00:35:49,167 --> 00:35:50,300 He's watching us. 718 00:35:56,901 --> 00:35:57,901 2 We know you're here. 719 00:35:59,167 --> 00:36:00,167 What do you want from us? 720 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,100 And now it's gone. 721 00:36:11,267 --> 00:36:14,367 This could be what they call a skinwalker den. 722 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,000 What is back there? 723 00:36:22,467 --> 00:36:24,467 Ooh, OK. 724 00:36:26,801 --> 00:36:29,267 Gosh darn it, pigeons. 725 00:36:35,868 --> 00:36:37,167 I'm going to count up. 726 00:36:37,334 --> 00:36:39,167 Let me know how many skinwalkers are around. 727 00:36:40,868 --> 00:36:41,868 One. 728 00:36:44,501 --> 00:36:45,634 Two. 729 00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,100 Three. 730 00:36:50,367 --> 00:36:52,200 Three. 731 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:56,367 Am I in danger? 732 00:37:00,667 --> 00:37:02,601 Is Phil in danger? 733 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:09,501 Yes. 734 00:37:11,868 --> 00:37:15,267 This is getting really narrow. Really sketchy back here. 735 00:37:22,467 --> 00:37:23,567 What's that sound? 736 00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:25,767 Oh. 737 00:37:25,934 --> 00:37:27,534 Rockslide. Rockslide! 738 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,167 Go, go, go. Oh, my God. 739 00:37:34,567 --> 00:37:35,801 - Oh, you good? - Yeah. 740 00:37:35,968 --> 00:37:36,901 You good, you good? 741 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:39,300 Look at that. 742 00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:40,567 That chunk... 743 00:37:42,367 --> 00:37:43,868 right there. 744 00:37:44,033 --> 00:37:46,267 That was crazy. 745 00:37:47,701 --> 00:37:48,701 Oh, my God. 746 00:37:49,968 --> 00:37:52,067 Yeah, I think I've had... 747 00:37:52,234 --> 00:37:54,367 just about enough rocks thrown at me for one night. 748 00:37:54,534 --> 00:37:56,467 Oh, let's go, go, go. 749 00:38:02,267 --> 00:38:03,467 - Heather! - Phil? 750 00:38:03,634 --> 00:38:05,300 - Are you OK? - Hey! 751 00:38:05,467 --> 00:38:06,434 I'm good, I'm coming! 752 00:38:07,767 --> 00:38:09,567 - You good? - I'm guessing you heard that? 753 00:38:09,734 --> 00:38:12,367 - Heard what? - Well, it happened again. 754 00:38:12,534 --> 00:38:14,968 I made it to the very back of this cave. 755 00:38:15,133 --> 00:38:16,868 And then rocks fell on me. 756 00:38:18,267 --> 00:38:20,667 Big rock this time. Major rock fall. 757 00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:21,701 We had to run out of there. 758 00:38:21,868 --> 00:38:23,501 - That's twice in one night? - Yeah. 759 00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,767 And I asked my REM pod if you were in danger. 760 00:38:25,934 --> 00:38:27,300 And then the REM pod lit up. 761 00:38:27,467 --> 00:38:28,767 - No. - Yeah. 762 00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:34,167 And we got confirmation that there are three skinwalkers 763 00:38:34,334 --> 00:38:35,767 in this very cave. 764 00:38:35,934 --> 00:38:38,167 This place is a skinwalker hideout. 765 00:38:38,334 --> 00:38:40,200 And like I said, they can really 766 00:38:40,367 --> 00:38:42,567 hurt somebody if they wanted to. 767 00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:44,801 You're down two lives tonight, Phil. 768 00:38:44,968 --> 00:38:46,567 So for us right now, 769 00:38:46,734 --> 00:38:48,267 I think that we need to leave this cave, 770 00:38:48,434 --> 00:38:50,067 but before we leave, we have to do one more thing. 771 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,467 Before we close our investigation, 772 00:38:56,634 --> 00:38:59,868 Shanclen conducts a final protection ritual. 773 00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,767 Beings of the cave, I'm here to offer you tobacco. 774 00:39:02,934 --> 00:39:06,100 In exchange, you are not allowed to follow us home. 775 00:39:12,267 --> 00:39:13,868 - Ready? - We can go. 776 00:39:15,767 --> 00:39:18,567 My team came to the Navajo Nation to investigate 777 00:39:18,734 --> 00:39:21,701 the truth behind the skinwalker legend. 778 00:39:21,868 --> 00:39:24,667 And while Phil and Heather never came face-to-face with 779 00:39:24,834 --> 00:39:28,367 a skinwalker themselves, a careful review of the photos 780 00:39:28,534 --> 00:39:30,767 from the so-called Skinwalker Canyon 781 00:39:30,934 --> 00:39:33,701 revealed unsettling anomalies. 782 00:39:33,868 --> 00:39:37,601 In this photo, a strange ball of light appears ominously 783 00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:39,267 in the background. 784 00:39:39,434 --> 00:39:42,200 And it's strikingly similar to the orb Heather observed 785 00:39:42,367 --> 00:39:45,267 at the Harris property. - What was that? 786 00:39:45,434 --> 00:39:47,567 And then there's this photo. 787 00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:51,300 It appears to be just an image of the night sky, but look more 788 00:39:51,467 --> 00:39:53,868 closely at the mist-like formation. 789 00:39:54,033 --> 00:39:57,067 It bears a disturbing resemblance to the eerie shape 790 00:39:57,234 --> 00:40:00,000 in the Harris family's video, the one that brought us to 791 00:40:00,167 --> 00:40:02,868 the Navajo Nation in the first place. 792 00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:06,367 But not all evidence pointed to something sinister. 793 00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:10,000 - Not at first glance, anyway. - Check this out. 794 00:40:10,167 --> 00:40:12,567 Lab results confirmed the hair Phil found 795 00:40:12,734 --> 00:40:15,567 down by the San Juan River next to the Harris' home 796 00:40:15,734 --> 00:40:17,667 belonged to a fox. 797 00:40:17,834 --> 00:40:21,267 Then, later that night, our trail cameras recorded one 798 00:40:21,434 --> 00:40:23,467 in that very same spot. 799 00:40:23,634 --> 00:40:27,000 We shared these findings with Shanclen, and far from being 800 00:40:27,167 --> 00:40:29,667 reassured, he was deeply concerned. 801 00:40:29,834 --> 00:40:32,767 He reminded us that, according to Navajo lore, 802 00:40:32,934 --> 00:40:34,501 skinwalkers regularly move 803 00:40:34,667 --> 00:40:37,501 between the physical and the spiritual. 804 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,701 He believes the entity Phil and Heather chased but were 805 00:40:40,868 --> 00:40:44,267 unable to find may have vanished because it transformed 806 00:40:44,434 --> 00:40:46,100 into an everyday animal. 807 00:40:46,267 --> 00:40:47,567 Whatever was back here, 808 00:40:47,734 --> 00:40:49,367 I don't see it anymore. 809 00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:52,467 Perhaps into the fox we then captured on camera. 810 00:40:52,634 --> 00:40:54,868 Or perhaps into a bird. 811 00:40:55,033 --> 00:40:56,000 Ooh! 812 00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,100 Gosh darn it, pigeons. 813 00:40:59,267 --> 00:41:01,300 When taken together, the orbs, 814 00:41:01,467 --> 00:41:06,067 the mist, and the animals all raises a chilling possibility. 815 00:41:06,234 --> 00:41:07,433 Oh, my God! 816 00:41:07,434 --> 00:41:09,968 While Phil and Heather hunted the skinwalker, 817 00:41:10,133 --> 00:41:12,968 perhaps the skinwalker was also hunting them. 818 00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:16,901 My team delivered their findings to the leaders 819 00:41:17,067 --> 00:41:19,667 of the Navajo Nation, receiving a blessing 820 00:41:19,834 --> 00:41:21,467 for a safe journey home.